At last Drew and Fiona have heard from South East Cambs MP James Paice on the subject of Frank Field's Early Day Motion 670.
The letter is below, with some comments from Drew and Fiona inserted in red:
Thank you for your letter regarding the Early Day Motion referring to opinion polls on the proposal for an English Parliament.
I appreciate your concerns about the impact of current constitutional arrangements which leads some people to the assumption that England is not properly represented [ Are you saying, with the Barnett Formula, West Lothian Question, NHS discrimination and non-representative MPs, that England IS properly represented, Mr Paice?], but I do not believe that regional assemblies or an English Parliament is the answer [ But English votes on English matters is unworkable].
The creation of an English Parliament would create another costly tier of politicians with an additional layer of bureaucracy that I do not believe that people in England want [ But the UK Government would have to be vastly reduced. Surely this comment is nonsense - quoted from the Conservative Book of Old Cobblers?]
Such a move would also move us towards a federal state which would cause instability due to the disproportionate size of the constituent parts that make up the United Kingdom [So, it's all right for citizens in England to be treated as second rate because of the country's size? Also, a federal UK could work very well. Surely the continuation of the Union should not be placed above the interests and needs of people in England?].
Chris says: Sadly, Mr Paice seems to be one of those head in the sands MPs, happy to sacrifice you, me and everybody else for the good of the Union. A real British gent, no less.
Sod you, dears - if the NHS won't cough up for medication available on the NHS in Scotland, who cares? I certainly don't. I don't use the NHS. And democracy for plebs? Not an issue, I'm afraid.
Chortle, chortle.
Distressing attitude.
This blog is supportive of the aims of the Campaign for an English Parliament, but is in no way connected.
This blog is not right wing or left wing. It is old style Socialist, true Socialist, and simply points out the facts regarding asymmetric national devolution, which is based on Edward Lhuyd's 1707 'Celtic' labelling of certain languages and historical revisionism, and how it disadvantages ALL people in the largest and most ethnically diverse UK country of all - England.
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Thursday, February 22, 2007
Thursday, January 25, 2007
"Britishness" Indoctrination - But Only In English Schools - And The Silence Of MPs...
Chris is on holiday and has asked that I keep the blog fires burning.
I was disturbed to read on the BBC site that the idea of children in schools in England being taught "core Britishness values" has now been recommended.
Note: only in English schools. Not in Scottish schools. Not in Welsh schools.
The England Project has a link to the BBC story and John says:
The British state will try to educate everybody’s children in how wonderful Britishness is. Only in England of course because in the area of education Westminster effectively has no say over the whole of Britain. That aspect of Britishness will not be taught in English schools. They will teach this in the hope of scratching back some of the ground that they have lost with their policy failures. During this education they will discuss all kinds of things but what they cannot do is instil a sense of Britishness in pupils in isolation of British institutions. They will talk about democracy. They will talk about freedom. They will talk about the institutions that we have created to frame and help protect these concepts…..and they will, at all costs, try to avoid discussing those institutions within the devolution environment. Sure they will mention the various parliaments but they will not, because they cannot afford to, discuss the real world results of those institutions. You cannot have little schoolboys and schoolgirls in England told that they are treated differently from children in Scotland and Wales.
Very disturbing.
Read the full post here.
Has anybody else heard from their MPs regarding EDM 670? Fiona and I e-mailed our MP, James Paice, several days ago and have heard nothing. Having contated him on other matters in the past, we must say this is a first - he is usually quick to reply.
Anybody else had better luck?
More soon,
Drew
UPDATE...
Sylv from Salford
When I was a kid in the 1970s, TV and schools and just about everything told us that Royalty was great. But I didn't believe that and asked some very difficult questions about the Royal family "living off the fat of the land" in discussions at school. Why? Because my parents were anti-Royal and they were a much more powerful influence on me than school or anything else.
Enough parents nowadays are discontented with the British thing to ensure that "Britishness" classes are no sweet, easily swallowed bowl of baloney. Questions will be asked by kids, and statements refuted in favour of "My Mum/Dad says..."
My daughter has left school, but if she had been facing these indoctrination classes, for that is what they are, I would have raised merry hell with the head teacher.
Having been ignored by the UK Government in our quest for democratic rule, I don't think this force-feeding of "Britishness" to children in England will be easily accomplished. In fact, I don't think it will be accomplished at all. This Government is transparent and utterly dispicable.
An occupying force, no less.
This blog is supportive of the aims of the Campaign for an English Parliament, but is in no way connected.
I was disturbed to read on the BBC site that the idea of children in schools in England being taught "core Britishness values" has now been recommended.
Note: only in English schools. Not in Scottish schools. Not in Welsh schools.
The England Project has a link to the BBC story and John says:
The British state will try to educate everybody’s children in how wonderful Britishness is. Only in England of course because in the area of education Westminster effectively has no say over the whole of Britain. That aspect of Britishness will not be taught in English schools. They will teach this in the hope of scratching back some of the ground that they have lost with their policy failures. During this education they will discuss all kinds of things but what they cannot do is instil a sense of Britishness in pupils in isolation of British institutions. They will talk about democracy. They will talk about freedom. They will talk about the institutions that we have created to frame and help protect these concepts…..and they will, at all costs, try to avoid discussing those institutions within the devolution environment. Sure they will mention the various parliaments but they will not, because they cannot afford to, discuss the real world results of those institutions. You cannot have little schoolboys and schoolgirls in England told that they are treated differently from children in Scotland and Wales.
Very disturbing.
Read the full post here.
Has anybody else heard from their MPs regarding EDM 670? Fiona and I e-mailed our MP, James Paice, several days ago and have heard nothing. Having contated him on other matters in the past, we must say this is a first - he is usually quick to reply.
Anybody else had better luck?
More soon,
Drew
UPDATE...
Sylv from Salford
When I was a kid in the 1970s, TV and schools and just about everything told us that Royalty was great. But I didn't believe that and asked some very difficult questions about the Royal family "living off the fat of the land" in discussions at school. Why? Because my parents were anti-Royal and they were a much more powerful influence on me than school or anything else.
Enough parents nowadays are discontented with the British thing to ensure that "Britishness" classes are no sweet, easily swallowed bowl of baloney. Questions will be asked by kids, and statements refuted in favour of "My Mum/Dad says..."
My daughter has left school, but if she had been facing these indoctrination classes, for that is what they are, I would have raised merry hell with the head teacher.
Having been ignored by the UK Government in our quest for democratic rule, I don't think this force-feeding of "Britishness" to children in England will be easily accomplished. In fact, I don't think it will be accomplished at all. This Government is transparent and utterly dispicable.
An occupying force, no less.
This blog is supportive of the aims of the Campaign for an English Parliament, but is in no way connected.
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